ACADEMY OF SAINT GABRIEL REPORT 2899
http://www.s-gabriel.org/2899
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19 Aug 2004
From: Aryanhwy merch Catmael 

Greetings from the Academy of S. Gabriel!

You wanted to know if <Estienne Daudelin l'Rouen> is an appropriate
name for a Frenchman living between 1450 and 1550.  Here is the
information we have found.

<Estienne> is a fine given name.  In one study of names from Paris
from 1421, 1423, and 1438, <Estienne> is the 6th most common
masculine name. [1]  It is also found in 15th-century Bordeaux and
in Roubaix and Ne/chin (in Artois near the modern Belgian border) in 
1601. [2,3]  (The slash represents an acute accent on the <e>.)  We 
believe this name was pronounced \ay-TYEN-n@\ or \ay-TYEN\.  Here 
\ay\ rhymes with <May>, \Y\ is a consonant, and \@\ represents the 
sound of <a> in <about> and <soda>.

<Daudelin> is more problematic; the first examples we have of this
surname are from the mid-17th century. [4, 10,11]  We are not sure of 
the origin of this surname.  One possibility is that it derives from 
the hypothetical given name <Dodelin>, a  double diminutive of 
<Dode>, an Old French name derived from the Germanic name <Dodo>. 
[5]  It could also (and perhaps more likely) be from a byname 
<d'Audelin>, '[son] of Audelin'.  <Audelin> is a double diminutive of 
<Aude>, an Old French masculine name derived from the Germanic name 
<Aldo>. [6]  While we have not found specific examples of 
<d'Audelin>, it is analogous to <Daudelet>, which is from 
<d'Audelet>; <Audelet> is also a diminutive of <Aldo>. [6]  To 
determine whether <Daudelin> is an appropriate byname for your 
period, we must ask two questions:

* Did a given name <Audelin> exist that could have produced a byname
  <d'Audelin>?

* Did bynames of the form <de> + given name contract into a single
  word?

The answer to the second question is easy; in Paris we find the
surname <Denicole> (<de> + <Nicole>) in 1423, in 16th-century 
Normandy we find <d'Albert> (from <Albert>). [1,3,7]  Other
modern surnames include <Dambroise> (from <Ambroise>), <Daudon>
(from <Audon>), <Daudier> (from <Audier>), and <Daudin> (from
<Audin>). [8]

The answer to the first question is more speculative.  In records
from Bordeaux between 1470 and 1520, we find one man named 
<Audet>.  [2]  However, we have not found any clear examples
of a man named <Audelin>; the closest we found was a son of
Henry I who died in 1120, who was named <William Audelin>. [9]
Without clear evidence for <Daudelin> in your period, we cannot
recommend it as the best of re-creation, but on the available 
evidence it appears to be quite plausible.

<l'Rouen> is not grammatically correct.  The article <le> 
means 'the', not 'of', and it does not elide before consonants.
The appropriate byname meaning 'of Rouen' for your period is <de 
Rouen>, which we find the in fifteenth century. [1]

<Estienne de Rouen> is a fine name for your period.  <Estienne
Daudelin de Rouen> is less likely, but still reasonable.

We hope that this letter has been useful to you and that you
won't hesitate to write us again if any part was unclear or if 
you have further questions.  Research and commentary on this
letter was provided by Arval Benicoeur, Talan Gwynek, and
Adelaide de Beaumont.

For the Academy,
-Aryanhwy merch Catmael, 19Aug04

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References:

[1] Friedemann, Sara L. (aka Aryanhwy merch Catmael), "French Names 
from Paris, 1421, 1423 & 1438" (WWW: privately published, 2002).
http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/paris1423.htm 

[2] Friedemann, Sara L., "Names Found in Commercial Documents from
Bordeaux, 1470-1520" (WWW: privately published, 2000)
http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/bordeaux.html.

[3] Friedemann, Sara L. (aka Aryanhwy merch Catmael), "French Names 
from 1601" (WWW: privately published, 2002).
http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/french1601.htm 

[4] McColl Name.com has one <Therese Daudelin> born 1700-1
http://www.mccoll-name.com/html/fam01454.html

[5] Morlet, Marie-Therese, _Dictionnaire E/tymologique des Noms de 
Famille_ (Librairie Acade/mique Perrin, 1997). s.n. Dode

[6] Morlet s.nn. Audelin, Daudelet

[7] Cateline de la Mor, "Sixteenth Century Norman Names" (SCA: KWHS 
Proceedings, 1994; WWW: Academy of Saint Gabriel, 1997).
http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/cateline/norman16.html 

[8] Dauzat, Albert, _Dictionnaire Etymologique des Noms de Famille et 
Prenoms de France_ (Paris: Libraire Larousse, 1987). s.nn. Dambroise,
Daudier, Daudin, Daudon

[9] Ibeji, Mike, "The Characters and Legacy of Henry II" (WWW:
BBC History: 2001)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/state/monarchs_leaders/henryii_character_
03.shtml

[10] Gardner, Sue, untitled genealogical page (WWW: Self-published 
1998-2002) has <Rene Daudelin> born 1667.  
http://members.aol.com/Sadie476/Group3.html 

[11] "Premie\re Ge/ne/ration" (WWW: Grandes Familles.org, no date) 
has a <Nicolas Daudelin> married in 1665.
http://www.grandesfamilles.org/Daudelin/01.html